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Pro’s and Con’s

Apr 2nd 2006MichaelGeneral

I was reading some of the different sites on our gaping issue with the lack of a border and found there is pros and cons with the issue.

The Pro’s:

  1. Cheap labor for some industries (they don’t have to meet the minimum wage)
  2. Labor Unions go out of business as companies replace all labor with illegal labor
  3. Enables International companies to better compete as the illegal’s don’t have to be allowed the safety and protection of rules for Americans.
  4. The world will like us better because they will be us
  5. We don’t need no stinking badges

So what is the down side?

  1. Medical costs go up, (I don’t get sick so I don’t see the effect)
  2. Crime rates go up ( I have a CCW to protect myself)
  3. Income tax collection become 0 because only illegal’s are working.
  4. Laws become obsolete (anarchy might fix the current batch of representatives)
  5. Social programs have to be cut because there is no tax base to support them.

What additional pro’s and cons are there so we figure out why our government allows this to continue.

4 Comments »

4 Responses to “Pro’s and Con’s”

  1. David Vance on 03 Apr 2006 at Mon 03 April 2006 07:43:42 #

    If federal law means nothing to the senitors how about we all stop paying federal income taxes. You can’t turn back on one law and not the other.

  2. Raven on 03 Apr 2006 at Mon 03 April 2006 14:00:11 #

    The “cheap labor” isn’t as cheap as it appears, that is fact. We see in healthcare costs. An illegal worker gets hurt; he has no insurance, no worker comp. He doesn’t seek help for his injury and lets it fester for awhile until he has no choice. So he goes to the local ER which is very very expensive. Medical facilities cannot turn him away and they must treat him (we save lives and help anyone, no matter what). The worker gets treatment but cannot buy any medications that were prescribed cause he can’t afford them; so the hospital dispenses the meds, free. Exrays, cat scans, dresings, stitches- everything- an admission and extended stay in the hospital- is provided FREE of charge. (The fees for a stay at a hospital cover the wages of tax paying American workers like me, the nurse…)
    For every $100 you pay in Medicaid/SS taxes, at least $12.00 goes towards the costs of medical treatments for illegals ALONE. Mutilply that 12.00 by however many millions of us who pay into the system…it’s an awful lot of money. That would go towards something more important like national defense.

  3. Raven on 03 Apr 2006 at Mon 03 April 2006 14:12:54 #

    I should add that the costs for an illegal to get health care though the means I wrote about, is about 300 times higher than it would have been had he been a citizen.
    Even with all our whining about the costs for insurance and worker comp rates- it’s still outragiously more expensive for our government to pay for this care. It’s not designed to be good. The payments from the government are only allowed to applied to certain things and staffing wages is not one of them…

    Down in Lowel MA there was a hospital that treated a very high amount of illegals (0f Asian decent).That hospital closed its doors about 4 years ago because-
    It depended upon government to pay for the care and treatment of the admission population. The rates the government paid were not enough to even pay the staff who worked at the place. Most hospitals have a good mix of patients-those who have insurance and those who will pay their bills. When you have an extremely high rate of people who cannot pay, trouble sets in.
    When staff cannot even get paid, or they cannot earn wages they could make up the road at an another hospital, they quit. No staff=no license=fines=closed hospitals. Lowell MA has a really big problem with this. The illegals now travel hospital to hospital and some are private pay facilities and will not admit them. Tough choices. It’s like an infection. It will become a HUGE problem in AR and NM and the other border states…just wait.

  4. Raven on 03 Apr 2006 at Mon 03 April 2006 14:27:11 #

    LOL and another side–
    American society in general could really change. For better or worse depending upon how one looks at it.

    All this bullshit Spanish as a Second language crap.
    Kids in schools up my way are now REQUIRED to know spanish before they can graduate. The Spanish speaking kids however are NOT required to know English. (and how can they really learn things if they cannot and not expected to know English? All the costs for translators, curriculum, books, testing formats, just for non English speaking kids…taking away from the overall education of ALL)…talk about dumbing down America.
    English is our language. The US should never let that change because it does identify us. It’s part of who we are.
    …is this even something to consider in the debate?