This is the Anti-American left

Yep, all of them

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - A U.S. citizen has confessed to using an axe to kill a Dutch student after failing to find a soldier to attack, his lawyer said Tuesday.

The suspect, Carlos Hartmann, 41, of Tecumseh, Mich., has confessed to the Sept. 8 killing on a train platform in the southern city of Roosendaal, defence lawyer Peter Gremmen said.

Gremmen said Hartmann wanted to punish the Netherlands for its support of the war in Iraq.

Hartmann appeared before a judge Tuesday and was ordered held for another two weeks for investigation.

“He hates soldiers, and says that the army kills people, so it would be legitimate if he were also to kill someone . . . from the American military - or from its NATO allies,” Gremmen said in a telephone interview.

When he failed to find a soldier at the Roosendaal train station, “he got such a crazy, disturbed idea that he killed a civilian,” Gremmen said.

Hartmann did not attempt to escape and was arrested shortly after the killing.

That is progressives for you.

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38 Responses to “This is the Anti-American left”

  1. meatbrain on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 04:00:25 #

    That is Michael for you: a mindless bigot, utterly incapable of rational thought.

    For even a second’s rational thought would have led Michael to reflect that the claim that all progressives are murderers is just as idiotic as would be the claim that all conservatives are closeted gays.

  2. Michael on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 13:12:08 #

    Are you getting a crazy idea there Meathead? Are you now going to go try to kill someone? Step away from teh computer and call 911 imeaditly and tell them how you feel….they can help

  3. meatbrain on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 14:42:06 #

    I haven’t had the crazy idea here, Michael. You are the one who claims that all who disagree with you politically are murderers. There’s crazy for you. Crazy, and intellectually gutless.

  4. Ogre on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 17:44:53 #

    Michael, let me explain “logic” in the world of meatbrain, as applied in this example.

    If I were to say, “Meatbrain is stupid.” (Which I’m not saying, I’m just using this as an example, which meatbrain won’t get); meatbrain’s logic will conclude that I have claimed that all stupid people are named meatbrain. Then he will ask why Kender owes me a dollar and every single comment from that point on will always end with, “Tell me, why does Kender owe Ogre a dollar” — even if I explain it’s for payment on a bounty.

  5. meatbrain on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 18:17:50 #

    Michael did, in fact, use the word “all”:

    Yep, all of them

    Ogre has problems reading for comprehension. He always has, and he always will.

  6. kender on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 21:20:48 #

    Ogre, I will pay you that dollar as soon as meaty pays me for all the comments he answers…..

  7. Michael on 12 Sep 2007 at Wed 12 September 2007 23:36:12 #

    Meaty,
    We have established that you get crazy ideas, we are now just trying to figure out how far you will take your lunacy. Do we need to warn the police that you are losing control already?
    Are you feeling ok today?

  8. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 01:30:34 #

    I haven’t had the crazy idea here, Michael. You are the one who claims that all who disagree with you politically are murderers. There’s crazy for you. Crazy, and intellectually gutless.

  9. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 02:16:30 #

    “We have established that you get crazy ideas…”

    False. Michael has merely made a vague claim. He has neither specified exactly what these alleged “crazy ideas” are, nor how he “established” that I hold them.

    Do so now, Michael. Specify exactly what alleged “crazy ideas” I hold. Specify exactly how you “established” that I hold them.

    Run, coward.

  10. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 03:19:54 #

    Oh looky here…a Jergens party.


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    Only Meaty is in attendance though…since he was asked to head the Jergens Jerk Off Dept. and all- he has a new found sense of self importance.

    Crazy ideas? Meaty?? Why would you want to kill innocent people? That’s so NOT you. Or is it?

    Michael you have a moral obligation to get Meaty some help.

  11. Big Dog on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 04:04:28 #

    We do not agree with abortion.

    Abortion is murder

    Those who believe in abortion disagree with us politically (and morally)

    Therefore, all those who disagree with us are murderers

  12. Ogre on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 04:11:28 #

    Meatbrain, why do you refuse to answer the question? Why do you want to kill people who disagree with you with an axe?

  13. Big Dog on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 04:14:45 #

    Meatbrain, you be careful swinging that axe. That Jergins makes your hands slippery (who am I telling) and that axe might slip out and hurt someone…

  14. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 05:52:39 #


    I am he as you are he as you are me
    and we are all together
    See how they run like pigs from a gun
    see how they fly
    I’m crying
    Sitting on a cornflake
    Waiting for the van to come
    Corporation T-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday
    Man you’ve been a naughty boy
    you let your face grow long

    I am the eggman
    they are the eggmen
    I am the walrus
    Goo goo g’ joob


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  15. kender on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 06:28:24 #

    Meaty’s new name, (as inconceivable as this sounds) is vizzini, for abvious reasons.

    Meaty, are you ever gonna pay me that money you owe Ogre, and are the homicidal feelings you are having common? Or do you find that they only really manifest after you run out of mt. dew or lotion?

  16. Aphrodite on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 06:38:14 #

    Wow.

    Meat Brain wants to kill people with axes- who don’t agree with him? Yes- he is just like all progressives.

    Of course, this is how the Democrats work. It’s their game. Agree with them and all is well; disagree and it murder time, or at least character assasination.

    Meat Brain: You state that you have an ax to grind with those who don’t agree with you. Then you state you’ll use an ax to take the life of anyone who disagrees with you. Is this how you have always been? Or is this a recent thought process for you? Either way you need serious help. Call a doctor, preferably a pchye doctor. Do you need medication? I think so.

  17. Michael on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 06:44:37 #

    Hey meat, are you going to tell us about your crazy ideas, we will send help just talk to us and answer our questions. Do you need a valium? or two?

    The men in white coats are coming to take you away haha hehe to the funny farm where life is

  18. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 12:04:08 #

    I suspect Meaty has gone into hiding at his own site once again…where he writes a four line post about how we’re all imbeciles…hmm…did he look in the mirror?


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    …I wouldn’t look in a mirror either if I looked like this. LOL!!!

    Meaty never participates in a debate. It goes against his ways and means. He throws out insults and name calling; he makes accusations; but he never answers those simple one celled questions we ask him.

  19. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 15:38:46 #

    …crickets are a chirping here Meaty.

    We are waiting for you to answer our questions. Why run away to hide? You can’t. You said it- you would kill people with an ax who disagree with you. HOW can you be so mean?

    (Maybe he took our advice and got medical care…perhaps he’s back on his meds again?)

  20. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 16:16:51 #

    “Meaty never participates in a debate.

    Raven is lying. She abandoned the last debate she challenged me to.

    The comments on my response to Raven’s challenge remain open. Does she have the courage to continue the debate?

    “You said it- you would kill people with an ax who disagree with you.”

    Raven is lying. I have made no such statement. Raven and her comrades are so mouth-breathingly stupid that they are incapable of dealing with disagreement, except by lying about someone who disagrees with them.

  21. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 17:04:55 #

    OH!!

    I forgot. NO WONDAH Meaty isn’t here right now! He’s busy with a book signing. Did yah’all know he wrote a small book? This is for men who need help getting dates and other…well…you know.

    Go check out Meaty’s new BOOK!! He’s gonna be a movie stah— once all the guys get a copy of this!

    I hear it’s sold…0 copies in the three months it’s been out.

  22. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 18:18:53 #

    (Note the cowardice exhibited by the owner(s) of this blog… the link in my comment immediately above was altered. This is because it serves as proof that Raven is lying.)

    “Meaty never participates in a debate.”

    Raven is lying. She abandoned the last debate she challenged me to:

    {No Links to spoiled meat!}

    The comments on my response to Raven’s challenge remain open. Does she have the courage to continue the debate?

    “You said it- you would kill people with an ax who disagree with you.”

    Raven is lying. I have made no such statement. Raven and her comrades are so mouth-breathingly stupid that they are incapable of dealing with disagreement, except by lying about someone who disagrees with them.

  23. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 19:04:24 #


    Sitting in an English garden
    waiting for the sun
    If the sun don’t come you get a tan
    from standing in the English rain

    I am the eggman
    They are the eggmen
    I am the walrus

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    Goo goo g’ joob

    Expert, texpert choking smokers
    don’t you think the joker laughs at you
    See how they smile like pigs in a sty
    See how they snide
    I’m crying
    Semolina pilchard
    climbing up the Eiffel tower
    Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna
    Man, you should have seen them kicking
    Edgar Allan Poe

    I am the eggman
    They are the eggmen
    I am the walrus

  24. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 19:13:46 #

    Does Raven have the courage to continue the debate she started?

    Raven has provided the clear and expected answer: No.

  25. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 19:28:03 #

    Oh nonono Meat Stall….

    YOU ran off like the scared little puss that you are WAY back when I posted a debate for you HERE. Let’s make that perfectly clear. YOU want to talk about cowards? Have a look in your mirror; you know, we might have more respect for you if you weren’t so damn stuck on stupid over yourself.

    You think you have balls? Pfft. You read our sites through a blog reader, your write 4 line posts showing your incredible intelligence and wit and humor…and you run off shittin your grandpa panties when someone calls you on it.

    You’re a spineless wimp who continues to prove to me, and my friends, why Democrats are the tards of this world. I KNOW YOU…I used to be a freakin Democrat. Until I saw just how much a bunch of hypocrites you all really are; selfish, ignorant, impotent idiOts.

    Grow up. Go start a new blog somewhere and write something of value for your side. Use some of that meat up in your inflated head- if theres any up there…otherwise, shutup and stop hiding behind your Momma’s skirts (proxy servers); get your thumb out of your mouth and use it somewhere else if you know how; go beat your 4 inch meat on someone else’s time not ours.

    When you’re a little more mature and not under Momma’s spell, maybe we’ll take you more seriously. Until then:
    FUCK OFF

  26. meatbrain on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 19:40:26 #

    YOU ran off like the scared little puss that you are WAY back when I posted a debate for you HERE.

    Raven is being truthful. I was going to respond to her “challenge” but my Mother advised me not to. It’s all her fault!!

    I have been unable to muster the courage to continue the debate I started. It’s been almost eleven months, and I need to grow a spine.

    The comments on Raven’s response to her debate posted here remain open. Do I have the courage to continue the debate?

    Apparently not. My Mother won’t allow me to do this!! She says I am too young and not manly enough!!

  27. Ogre on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 19:55:23 #

    Meatbrain, why do you refuse to answer the question? Why do you want to kill people who disagree with you with an axe?

  28. Raven on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 20:16:25 #

    Answer? Meaty? he can’t. His Mommy won’t let him.

  29. Michael on 13 Sep 2007 at Thu 13 September 2007 21:23:48 #

    Meatless, “meaty hates soldiers, and says that the army kills people, so it would be legitimate if he were also to kill someone . . . from the American military - or from its NATO allies,”
    Meatless I hope you don’t have an axe too? We need to inform the police because you are pretty much unstable…..Stay away from the schools in your neighborhood….
    Bad Meat, Bad

  30. meatbrain on 14 Sep 2007 at Fri 14 September 2007 01:48:14 #

    Raven is so terrified of continuing the debate that she altered the text of comment #26 above. Here’s the original.

    Raven is lying. I responded to her “challenge”:

    [Meathead, I told you no links to your crap site. ]/

    Raven has been unable to muster the courage to continue the debate she started. It’s been almost eleven months, and Raven has yet to grow a spine.

    The comments on my response to Raven’s challenge remain open. Does she have the courage to continue the debate?

    Apparently not.

  31. Ogre on 14 Sep 2007 at Fri 14 September 2007 02:00:02 #

    Meatbrain, why do you refuse to answer the question? Why do you want to kill people who disagree with you with an axe?!?

  32. Raven on 14 Sep 2007 at Fri 14 September 2007 06:13:05 #

    Meaty’s got an ax to grind? And he’s beating his meat?

    Hmm…so he’s self destructive too.

  33. And Rightly So! » Friday Morning News And Links on 14 Sep 2007 at Fri 14 September 2007 06:20:11 #

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  34. meatbrain on 14 Sep 2007 at Fri 14 September 2007 19:08:22 #

    YOU ran off like the scared little puss that you are WAY back when I posted a debate for you HERE.

    Raven is lying. I responded to her “challenge”:

    MEATBALL: STOP LINKING TO YOUR SITE YOU LINK WHORE!!!

    Raven has been unable to muster the courage to continue the debate she started. It’s been almost eleven months, and Raven has yet to grow a spine.

    The comments on my response to Raven’s challenge remain open. Does she have the courage to continue the debate?

    Apparently not.

  35. kender on 15 Sep 2007 at Sat 15 September 2007 06:51:23 #

    meaty? After reading this thread I can only ask; What have you against people with axes? And why do you want to kill them?

  36. AirborneVet on 15 Sep 2007 at Sat 15 September 2007 14:29:55 #

    Do you think this guy will be charged with a hate crime? It wuld seem appropriate since he admitted to hating someone.

  37. Raven on 15 Sep 2007 at Sat 15 September 2007 20:30:34 #

    BWAHAHAH

    [Meathead, I told you no links to your crap site. ]/

    Looks like the meatball snuck in a link…what a turd he is.

  38. meatbrain on 16 Sep 2007 at Sun 16 September 2007 02:44:16 #

    YOU ran off like the scared little puss that you are WAY back when I posted a debate for you HERE.

    Raven is lying. I responded to her “challenge”:

    http://thinkingmeat.net/2006/10/16/responding-to-raven/

    Raven has been unable to muster the courage to continue the debate she started. It’s been almost eleven months, and Raven has yet to grow a spine.

    The comments on my response to Raven’s challenge remain open. Does she have the courage to continue the debate?

    Apparently not.

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